It's really stupid and embarrassing... The person I'm dating gives too much of himself for me, even when I tell him to take care of himself instead. Something like this has happened before, though the situation with my doctor was a little different, obviously. Anyway... The kind of person I am, if something doesn't change, then I'll always be hurting him, whether I want to or not.
i mean i’d do anything for Abigail or Kim if he was here even this guy jean who fucking hates me probably if he was still here but i think thats how i love people you know
They needed him. That’s the thing about making yourself useful. The entire thing. If you do things for people and become necessary they can’t just get rid of you like that. They won’t see that you don’t have anything else to give. And Kim’s thing was that he didn’t talk about things. Ever. He learned how to kill and cook for Kim. Not once did they ever talk about it.
It was perfect. The distance between them would never be crossed, nor would it ever widen. Nothing would ever change and nothing could ever change.
So this thought experiment is hard for Harry. It takes him a moment. He really does want to help Rachel.
[...Yes. Yes, that...makes sense, of course it does. The fact that she hadn't seen it...
She really has come a long way, hasn't she? How frustrating that there were those that would claim otherwise. Still, being familiar with that feeling didn't make trying to fix it for someone any easier. Had it not been for her delusional mind and Zack's perseverance, would she have ever taken control of her own worth?]
I think it's important to have some of yourself left over when you've given yourself to someone. A piece with your own hopes and dreams, that will hold what you believe and the way you feel about things. I feel like...if I'm going to love someone, I want to see that piece of them. It helps give meaning to what I'm given and not.
I don't know how to resolve these two perspectives.
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<ambrosius>
VOLITION - (You shouldn't take it personally. Ask her what's wrong.)
hey whats going on
?
< r.gardner >
It's really stupid and embarrassing...
The person I'm dating gives too much of himself for me, even when I tell him to take care of himself instead.
Something like this has happened before, though the situation with my doctor was a little different, obviously.
Anyway... The kind of person I am, if something doesn't change, then I'll always be hurting him, whether I want to or not.
<ambrosius>
oh
that makes sense
sounds really hard
< r.gardner >
I guess this is something that's complicated even for "normal" people.
<ambrosius>
im not good at it either
i mean
i’d do anything for Abigail
or Kim if he was here
even this guy jean who fucking hates me probably if he was still here
but i think thats how i love people
you know
< r.gardner >
What would you feel if one of them told you to stop?
Not loving them, but...to stop giving them anything you can. Every piece of you.
<ambrosius>
They wouldn’t.
They needed him. That’s the thing about making yourself useful. The entire thing. If you do things for people and become necessary they can’t just get rid of you like that. They won’t see that you don’t have anything else to give. And Kim’s thing was that he didn’t talk about things. Ever. He learned how to kill and cook for Kim. Not once did they ever talk about it.It was perfect. The distance between them would never be crossed, nor would it ever widen. Nothing would ever change and nothing could ever change.
So this thought experiment is hard for Harry. It takes him a moment. He really does want to help Rachel.
but
id be really scared
id feel useless
like i could get left behind
< r.gardner >
[...Yes. Yes, that...makes sense, of course it does. The fact that she hadn't seen it...
She really has come a long way, hasn't she? How frustrating that there were those that would claim otherwise. Still, being familiar with that feeling didn't make trying to fix it for someone any easier. Had it not been for her delusional mind and Zack's perseverance, would she have ever taken control of her own worth?]
I think it's important to have some of yourself left over when you've given yourself to someone. A piece with your own hopes and dreams, that will hold what you believe and the way you feel about things.
I feel like...if I'm going to love someone, I want to see that piece of them. It helps give meaning to what I'm given and not.
I don't know how to resolve these two perspectives.
<ambrosius>
Well the thing about me is that I’m a crusty old guy. Your guy, he’s not too old to change.
< r.gardner >
He's at least ten times as stubborn...and he has more memories of being this way than you do.